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Venue Coordinator

How to Work with a Wedding Planner

0 · Apr 21, 2016 ·

There was a wedding I worked last summer at a beautiful new venue.  It was owner operated and so I would also call her the venue coordinator.  We talked about a ton of plans before hand and she had quite a few “particulars” that were musts on her lists to keep her venue in pristine condition.  She had extra staff around and she would often reference that “they” will take care of various things.  She was also very involved with the overall flow.  Nothing crazy out of the ordinary for a venue coordinator.  However, it got to a point in the evening where things just weren’t proceeding as they should and I needed to take matters into my own hands.  Something that “they” were supposed to do hadn’t happened yet.  So I inquired about when it might be taking place.  I don’t think I’ll ever forget this moment as I’m still filled with fury just thinking back, she stopped and turned, then barked at me “I don’t know!  I’m not the wedding planner!!” She walked away, my blood was boiling and I didn’t speak to her the rest of the night (because obviously the silent treatment is the mature approach from me).  And I did “their” job myself.

Other than the fact that her reaction was so out of line, the reason I was so upset about this is because I wasn’t the wedding planner either.  I was just hired for day-of coordination.  I didn’t know EVERYTHING.  And this is why I beg couples to share as much information as they possibly can with me.

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Photography: Ashley Slater Photography

The title of this article is “How to Work with a Wedding Planning”.  I’d like to take time to explore this from both a vendor and client perspective.  These questions come up all the time – what’s the relationship between bride and planner? Who do we communicate with? Who are services contracted through? Does the planner completely take over the wedding?

Before I can answer these questions, I need to start by laying some groundwork.  We need to understand the various levels of service that you can hire someone like myself for.  I think why the venue owner reacted the way she did was due to a lack of understanding.  She didn’t understand what the bride truly hired me to do, or what the difference is between a coordinator and planner.

I’m hoping that with this little series we can clear up some of the misconceptions and learn how we call can work together.

Now, it might vary some depending upon who you hire, but for me, I offer several different options and this is what each of these services include.

  1. Floral Design

If I’ve been hired for floral design only, I’m going to make some gorgeous arrangements.  However, I’m not going to design or setup any other pieces of the wedding and I’m not in charge of any planning services.  I’m simply going to decorate with the supplies that I brought along and then I’m going home for the day.  Aside from possibly a quick chat with the photographer or adding a few blooms to the cake, I won’t have communications with the other vendors.  This service is pretty unique to me, most planners don’t offer full floral design and if they do, it’s only with clients who have hired them for planning as well, which makes it more of an add on service.  But I love flowers and will arrange them for weddings no matter what.

  1. Event Design

Event design flows really well with floral design.  Think of this as hiring me to take charge of anything that’s aesthetically pleasing.  Some items that fall into this category would be linen selection, room layouts, invitations and other paper products, working with the cake designer, helping select bridesmaids colors, backdrops, place settings and sourcing some of those specialty rental items.  However, this doesn’t include assistance with logistics, timing, etiquette or really any non-visual pieces of the wedding day.  I scheme, I design, and I set everything up pretty and make sure that the special vendor’s I subcontracted are doing their part but then I’m on my way before the show really begins.

  1. Day-of Coordination/Event Management

Sometimes one is hired just to manage those logistics.  Some planners have strength in the visual elements and some are more suited to managing the flow of the day.  While most planners will do either, I think it’s important to understand the strengths of whose been hired.  Why did you go to that planner?  Is it because they have awesome communications and flow with other vendors? Or is it because you love the look of their portfolio?  And why does their portfolio look like that? If they’ only coordinated and had nothing to do with the design, then it can’t possibly be expected that every wedding they coordinate will have “that look”, because the planning of most of those visual elements most likely took place before they were involved.

So if someone is contracted to manage the day, expect them to do just that.  They typically jump in about the last month or so of planning and tie up the loose ends.  They make sure that everything the bride has put in place actually happens and are the go-to person on the wedding day and the final days leading up to the wedding.  Questions from other vendors can be filtered through them, therefore eliminated 50 different texts/emails/calls to the bride on the day before the wedding and we can narrow that down to 1 from her coordinator, who will be in fact her right hand man on the day of.  Typically this person is the first person onsite and the last one to leave at the end of the evening.  They don’t generally do much setup or decorating, a few tasks here or there such as placing table numbers or escort card displays but for the most part, their job is to oversee and make sure that everyone else is doing their job.

Now as a vendor working a coordinator, understand that they may not have all the answers right away – they only have information the bride has given them.  And sometimes sucking information out of the bride is a challenging task, from finalizing guest counts to knowing who receives all of the corsages and boutonnières, there are a lot of the pieces of the puzzle to be managed.  We coordinators at times have had to deal with brides who haven’t found it necessary for us to have “all” the information, which is a really tough place to be in and sometimes make us appear less than adequate at our jobs.

  1. Full Service Wedding Planning

This person is hired to assist with the entire process.  There’s not much that’s off limits – from design, to vendor selections, clothing, rsvp tracking and turning out the lights at the end of the night, this is your all-encompassing package.

The full service wedding planner will spend over 200 hours planning a wedding.  The wedding weekend itself may contain a couple 12+ hour days for her and her assistants.  There will be so much behind the scenes work that goes unseen, it’ll just magically happen and the day will (hopefully) be perfect.

If the wedding planner is also the floral designer, add another 100 hours of labor onto a big wedding.  I know it sound excessive but this is not a job for the weak and weary.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the planner isn’t there to take away from their fun in wedding planning.  The bride and groom are usually still involved and there are details that the planner cannot handle – inviting guests, dress fittings, music selection, seating charts, cake and food tasting – just to name a few.  Most planners stay in the know on all these subjects, but there’s a chance that a bride or groom may change their mind and forget to notify the planner.  It’s not a fool proof system that everything will remain worry free just because there’s a wedding planner.  Communication is key to this relationship.

This post got a little wordy, but if you’re still with me – that’s step 1 to working with a planner for both clients and vendors.  Bottom line, you need to know who was hired and what services they have been hired for.  This will determine the rest of the working relationship.  Stay tuned for part 2 of this 4 part series.

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Venue Coordinator vs. Wedding Coordinator

0 · Mar 18, 2014 ·

This scenario has replayed itself several times in the past couple weeks and I’m starting to see a little pattern here.  First a perspective bride contacts me and asks about pricing, availability and general services and business information.  We happily chat about her dream day and it looks like I might have a potential wedding to add to my lineup. Then she chats again with her venue and Venue Coordinator.  It’s at this point that something happens and she decides that she does not want to move forward with booking my services.

While I know this isn’t new information to be found out there on Mr. Internet, I do think we need to gain a little perspective on this situation.  It’s my unhappy guess that the venue coordinator ensured said bride that all off her needs will be met and that my services are not needed.  Why do you need a wedding coordinator and a venue coordinator?

Before it get into this whole debate, I would first like to remind you that I NEVER want you to spend more than absolutely necessary for your wedding.  Budgets are extremely close to my heart, and I understand that not hiring a planner can be a money saving move.  Secondly, I have been both a venue coordinator and a boutique wedding coordinator – I just want to make you aware of my experience.

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Venue Coordinator:

At your wedding venue there is more than likely a person there with the title Event Planner or Wedding Coordinator.  This person works for the venue.  They manage every party, event and dinner that is hosted in their facility.  They know common room layouts, timing in the kitchen and pretty much have your wedding down to assembly line science.  They work with the chef, the bartenders and the service staff making sure that their facilities looks spic and span and service is top notch.  This ensures that their venue looks great, receives rave reviews and you’re a happily married couple at the end of the night.

Now here’s where things get a little fuzzy.  Each venue is a little different so this is a generalized statement (as is some of the above, since not all venues have their own in-house catering).  When you meet with the venue for the very first time, most likely you toured the property/event space, asked lots of questions, were given a packet of information and perhaps even a list of preferred vendors.  You were probably told that they’d help you set up {if they have time}, you can decorate the day before {if there isn’t another event booked}, and they will help with all aspects of the event – which you assumed to mean directing vendors, guests and completing set-up {if they’re scheduled to work during those arrival/set-up times}.

Here’s what they might not be telling you.  Turnover in the hospitality industry is extremely high; the Venue Coordinator you originally booked with at your venue might not be the same Venue Coordinator that actually runs your event.  Did all of your notes get transferred?  And can the new coordinator make sense of them? Ask your Venue Coordinator if they’re actually on-site during the event.  A surprising number do not actually work weekends and just leave notes in the hands of their Banquet Captains.  Again, is the Banquet Captain provided with all the details about your wedding?

{Boutique} Wedding Coordinator:

There’s a sentence up there says “help with all aspects of the event” – but what it really should say is “help with all aspects of the event happening within their facility”.  Because that’s the truth.  While there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, it’s simply stepping outside of their event space is not part of their job description.

The individual Wedding Coordinator that you hire is going to be your right hand man.  True, how involved they actually get might vary depending on what you hired them for (day-of, partial or full planning, decorating, styling, etc.), but they work solely for you.  Your Wedding Coordinator will help you with anything you need from the moment you get out of bed on your wedding day until the moment your head hits the pillow again as a married woman. If your transportation doesn’t arrive, she may jump in her Tahoe and go pick up the wedding party.  If your photographer doesn’t show up, she’ll go to her list of contacts and find a backup, ASAP!  You can go to your wedding coordinator with questions regarding timelines, etiquette, vendor referrals and difference of opinions with your new mother-in-law.

Another bonus?  You can contact 1 person to make it happen!  Your Wedding Coordinator can handle all of those various vendor relations for you.  This means that you won’t have to type an email on your IPhone during your rehearsal dinner because there’s been a change of plans.  Venue Coordinators don’t generally get that involved.

If you should happen to host your wedding a location that does not have a coordinator on-site at all then I dare say you NEED to hire someone.  Leaving a rental company to show up at an empty space to set up chairs is a nightmare.  Just expecting that the DJ or band will know where they should set up is asking too much.  Oh the chaos guest could arrive and see!

My biggest piece of advice I can offer is to plan for the unexpected.  Something WILL happen.  Big or small, something that is not in your wedding plan is bound the take place.  Having both a Venue Coordinator and a Wedding Coordinator is like an insurance policy, two heads are defiantly better than one!

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